hi joy; the first year of a marriage is always the SWEETEST!!!!! I enjoy your posts, and most of the others.... and you are right you must keep moving on... but always stay close by....johnny cip
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It has been a year!!
by Joyzabel inwell, can you believe it, it has been a year since i timidly joined this forum!
(yes me, i was very timid at first!
i came looking to see if anyone else had the same experience as me in finding out that the wtbts is just another manmade organization with dangling carrots and big sticks.
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Focus on Bill Bowen and Ray Franz (CENSORED)
by Focus inbill bowen wrote about ray franz in.
* the thread found by clicking here.
his silence regarding abuse causes me to question his ability to stand for what is morally and ethically right.. .
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johnny cip
well in think focus, made some good points about the wt being a false christ etc.. in fact i agree on most he said about the wt... the wt should burn!!!! yes i think ray is a little wishy washy,, but he did help many in a style that jw's can swallow... and that is a gift... i think ray could do more ... he is no saint.... for all his bad works in the wt ,,he deserves credit for the good he did... if the wt didn't df him he might be the pope of the wt today???? we will never know.... screw the wt ......john
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Today I had been DA
by Ginosko infirst of all, sorry for my bad english i'm from peru south america.
there's a lot to tell but i'm going in this time to be brief, because i'm very busy.. i had been an elder for almost 8 years and a jh for more than 22 years.. i'm a searcher of the truth from the 10 years old.
i grow as a catholic and got baptized as a jh at the age of 21.. in october of 2001 a jw friend ask me about the un&wt and bulgarian affair.
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johnny cip
hello ginosko''' let me ask you a question?? does the watchtower magizines and books in peru have a price on them... are they sold for a dollar or sol as inm peru.. in the united states the wt stoped selling the magazines in 1991... i would like this information from Peru....thank you john
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Meeting with JW's weekly-HELP!
by bound2fly2002 inhello,am new here and have questions .
i need to know what the topic of knowledge leads to life is really about and if anyone can tell me scriptures that would be helpful to refute this.
have been studying with them for quite awhile and have visited the hall a couple of times.
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johnny cip
hi bound,, first i say look around the net ther are so many ways to baffle the jw's it a trip..i like faslse prophecies..the wt teaches now that they were choosen by jesus in 1919 after jesus returned in 1914 . after a 3 year inspection of all the religions from 1914-1918 jesus choose the wt. now here's the stumper...say you want to have studies on all the old wt books from that time ..the time is at hand ,finished mystery, thy kingdom come, millium dawn, battle of armagettom,,etc. you only want to study wt's up till 1925...to test if jesus really choose the wt in 1918-19... prove all things true james 4-17 ..at this point they may refer you to the proclaimers book..don't go for it.. next to no jw's today have read any of these books fill of false prophecy.. i'll give you some dates the wt set..1776 98 99 1829 31 45 72 73 74 75 78 81 1905-7 10-12 14 15 18 20 21 25 32 41 51 54 75 86 84 95 2000 etc..do some heavy research on wt false prophecy on the net..once you get this info you can show the jw's how the new wt mag's call these books full of false prophecy bible truth ..i'll leave you with a new wt lie in oct 1 2002 wt in pg 25 it says that dad read the book millions living will never die in 1929 it was the greatest thing he ever read... well that booklet said that the world was to end in 1925.. do you see what i'm saying... the wt lies all the time knowing jw's have never read these books..good luck .....john
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question about free speech and ex-witnesses
by ballistic ina while ago, there was some yacking about free speech on this web site.... i was thinking how despite recent events, it's amazing that a group of people with such different reasons for leaving their past behind, now with differing religious views and feelings on life and the world, men and women, young and old, people from different nations having much more contact than they ever did in the org, can actually form such a close community.. some people say, their goal is not to bring the org down but to see molesters disfellowshipped and brought to justice.
can i then put it this way.... some people are hoping and praying (rightfully) that the org does to these sickos what was once done to many of us.
(note the strange irony of those wicked people un-challenged and those summarilly dismissed).. does that mean that on a free-speech web site, the perverts would then be allowed to join, post and air their views, if not take over the forum when numbers reach the proportion that could be expected?.
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johnny cip
funny; when i expose jw's on the street preaching to someone. they want to call the police..haha..then i let them know it was the wt that went to court to protect my freedom of speech in regards to religion.. so if they don't want me to blow up there pitch.. they shouldn't go into the street and preach if they can't take the heat...i love to walk up to jw's in the fs and twist them.. they never get a new study when i'm around...john
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UN & Df'ing
by Tashawaa ini'm curious... does anyone know of situations where jw inquiring into the un have been df'd?
i did all the research and got info from the original sources (so when i show my family there's no doubt).
i wrote the society once, then got the "usual" reply (2 weeks later) - wrote again, this time pointing out specifics and wanting answers, but instead i got df'd (hmmm, 3 weeks later) for living with my sister (who was disassociated for some time, and was no big secret here in my congregation).
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johnny cip
ugg; just try it,, and let all in your cong. see what you found....you can be sure god's sprit directed org. will show you their special brand of christian love....straight out the door....john
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another sign of the end
by comforter insniper shootings.
these people sick.
but it shows the end is near.
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johnny cip
comforter;; that was great!!!!they will know that a prophet was with them....lol ha ha ha ....were still laughing over here.....my brother is turning BLUE!!!HA HA HA HA ... THANX FOR THE LAUGH.. I HAD A CRAPY DAY..LOL NOW MY BROTHER IS CRYING...HE CUTTING A ONION AND LAUGHING AT THE SAME TIME... YOU forgot to to tell us all what kind of a prophet...the word of god calls the watchtower.....A FALSE PROPHET.......THATS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE WT... now go do your homework.... and learn all about your false god,christ.prophet,,,you can be helped...come back when you get your facts straight.....john
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On the Verge of Leaving the Testigos
by Coqui inlooking for suggestions!.
i am 38 years old.
not raised in the "truth", baptized in 1984. married with three very young kids.
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johnny cip
coqui;;; whats the problem ??? you have next to no family in the wt...at this point i play the shit out of them... when they come ...i would say please wait at the door i have diareihha and have to go right now...and leave them standing at the door.. for hours and put on the stereo loud so you can't here the door bell.. i would let them keep coming to your house ..and make an excuse to leave them standing at a closed door. ... if it comes to the point were they are pestering your family.. i would keep them at the door and go inside and call the police. when the police came tell them these people are harrassing my family ...and if they continue this i want them locked up...that will be the end .. trust me i went through this with the police... tell them if any jw's fuck with my family you are going to get a court order of protection against them....this is your right ...under law... at least in new york it is.. jw's are scared shit of the law...they don't like when you use it against them...get the cops at your door one time when they are there ...and you will never hear from them again....make them shit in their pants... it will work....have fun screwing them.....john
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WT PR Statement - silentlambs march
by silentlambs inthis was read and given to all media at the march.
the outrage is to great to express, who are these people?
silentlambs .
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johnny cip
WOW ;; i always want to comment.........but at this site i don't need too!!!! all the great posters do all the talking for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i thought i knew all about the wt....there are many here , with more insite than i ........good work .........thanx john in the bronx
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Dearest Dragon & Kelsey
by BB inis there some purpose to be gained by attacking bill bowen and silentlambs?
do you honestly feel that bill bowen can be equated to the gb and is exercising his own form of brainwashing?
are his motives so disingenuous?
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johnny cip
this is getting off track...dragon and 007 have some good points. childmolestion is a problem that crosses all lines. and if we all think back 20 years the law did a lot less than today. so things are moving????slowly...its great people are making waves. if just ripples..i worked for the union of the d.a.office 20 years ago and we were pushing for stiffer laws on this then. yes we need people to go to the d.a.'s attorney generals offices in their state and to washington.. i made tis point to b bowen and others .. if people just tell their story on the web and don't go the the d.a. office they are just blowing hot air....talk is cheap ..when more victims go to the politians and courts we might get results...thats right all the groups should get together and lobby washington and state capitiols....otherwise we are all wasting our time ...i agree the silent lambs have to take it to the next level..but at the same time they have done a lot in a years time...lets see were it goes from here?????john